BurnPony vs Zero Note

Same species. Different proofs.

Two indie apps, one shared premise: information has a natural lifespan, and a note should stop existing when its job is done. Zero Note answers with more rules — views, time, even location. BurnPony answers with more proof: named primitives, published behavior, and a viewer you can read. Which trade is right depends on what you need to be able to check.

the short version

Zero Note for location rules and shipping today; BurnPony for crypto you can verify and copies that don't exist. Zero Note can lock a note to an address or a country and is already on the App Store. BurnPony specifies its entire construction — AES-256-GCM, HKDF, PBKDF2 at 600,000 iterations — keeps no local copy of note text anywhere, does receipts without collecting anyone's email, and ships an auditable single-file viewer.

At a glance.

BurnPonyZero Note
Client-side encryptionYes — AES-256-GCM, sealed on deviceYes — described as AES-based E2E
Crypto specificationFully documented: HKDF-SHA256, PBKDF2 600k, nonce and tag sizesAlgorithm family named; construction not published
VerifiabilityViewer auditable via View Source; app and browser cross-verified with shared vectorsNot documented
Account modelNone — no account exists for anyoneAnonymous account, no email or phone
Self-destruct by views1–100, ciphertext deleted atomically on the last viewYes
Self-destruct by time1 hour–30 daysDuration or calendar date; 30-day maximum retention
Self-destruct by locationNoYes — anywhere, an address, or a country
Passphrase second factorYes — PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256, 600,000 iterationsNot documented
Read confirmationGeneric push; recipient told before revealing; no emails collectedEmail notification; recipient's email address stored to send it
Local copies after sendingNone — Sent tab stores ID, token, settings; never note textApp keeps a local copy stored in iCloud (per its privacy policy)
Settings visible to the serverAuto-hide travels encrypted inside the note; server sees a counter and a clockAccess rules readable by design, including geofence coordinates — disclosed honestly
Existence privacyBurned, expired, never-existed: identical responsesNot documented
InfrastructureSolo-operated relay; custom server URL supported in SettingsCloudflare-hosted storage
Source codeViewer readable on every link today; repositories plannedNo published repositories
AvailabilityIn development — App Store submission being preparedOn the App Store now
PriceFreeFree with some paid features via Apple
OperatorOne indie developerOne indie developer

Honest tradeoffs.

Where Zero Note wins

  • Location-locked notes. Locking a note to a specific address or country is a genuinely novel rule BurnPony simply doesn't have — for a key that should only open at the office, or instructions that only make sense on site, nothing here competes.
  • It ships today. Zero Note is on the App Store right now; BurnPony is still in preparation. For the note you need to send this afternoon, availability is the whole argument.
  • Calendar-date expiry. "Destroy on the 15th" is a cleaner fit than counting hours when a note's lifespan is tied to an event rather than a duration.
  • An honest disclaimer culture. Zero Note states plainly that access rules are readable by its server so it can enforce them. That kind of candor is rarer than it should be, and it deserves credit.

Where BurnPony wins

  • Crypto you can check, not just trust. "AES-based" names a family; BurnPony names the construction — AES-256-GCM, HKDF-SHA256, PBKDF2 at 600,000 iterations, exact nonce and tag sizes — and cross-verifies the app against the browser viewer with shared test vectors. The viewer that handles your key is readable on every note link.
  • No copies, anywhere. After sending, BurnPony holds no note text on your phone, in iCloud, or anywhere else — the Sent tab keeps an ID, a token, and settings. A burn-after-reading note that also lives in a synced local copy has two lifespans; BurnPony's has one.
  • Receipts without an address book. Read confirmation arrives as a content-free push, the recipient is told before they reveal, and no one's email address is collected or stored to make it work.
  • A smaller readable surface. The server enforces exactly two things it can check without learning more — a view counter and a clock. Even the auto-hide setting travels encrypted inside the note, and dead links are indistinguishable from links that never existed.
  • Your relay, if you want it. Settings accepts a custom server URL today, with the relay's source planned for release — a path off shared infrastructure that Zero Note's Cloudflare-hosted design doesn't offer.

The verdict.

  • Choose Zero Note if location-locking is the feature you actually need, or the note has to go out today — it's a thoughtful indie tool that exists now.
  • Choose BurnPony if your bar is verifiability: specified primitives, an auditable viewer, no lingering copies, and receipts that don't collect anyone's email.
  • Either way, you're funding an independent developer instead of an ad model — a rare comparison where both answers respect the reader.

Try BurnPony

Free. No accounts, no tracking. In development — one email on launch day if you want it.